From: Randal Whittle (rwhittle_at_usa.net)
Date: Sun Apr 25 1999 - 22:29:38 EDT
At 01:03 PM 4/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>>1) Max HD Capacity
>> OK, fair counter. But with 10+ GB being offered
>I don't own a 600, so do not know anything about them beyond what I've read on
>the mailing list or can see on the IBM web site. For my message, I was going
>by what IBM's web site claimed to be available. I saw no drive larger than a
>6.4, which is smaller than the 8.1 I have in my 770 and is certainly smaller
>than the 14.something currently offered for the 770. When you consider the
>fact that the 770 allows two such drives to be mounted, the difference is even
Perhaps Bill Morrow can chime in with the details on max HD size for the
ultra-thins (12 mm).
For the record, the 600's can have a 2nd HD in the Ultraslim Bay too--I
have an adapter for doing so at a mere cost of $28 or so.
>>>2) Screen Size
>> I have news for you: 13.3" vs. 14.1" isn't noticable.
>Our opinions seem to differ on this point.
Opinions are like belly buttons--everyone has one. ;-)
But assuming the same XGA resolution, I still don't believe the 0.8"
difference is anything to get excited about. At least with SXGA, there's
something more substantial to it.
>>>3) 2nd Battery Capability
>> The newer 600's have this too.
>I couldn't find any mention of that on their web site.
They do. My 600 doesn't, but mine is one of the originals. The updated
models that followed after those do indeed have the 2nd Batt. capability.
>>It just takes me about 20 seconds to suspend and hotswap it.
>Well, if I could get suspend to work properly (allowing my PCMCIA Ethernet /
>Modem card to be recognized after a resume) and if the suspend / resume cycle
>were as short as you imply, then I would agree. However, on my 770ED, a
>Suspend takes (at best) 10 seconds and a Resume takes (at best) 25-30 seconds.
>After the Resume, I have to either re-boot or remove and re-insert my MHz
>Ethernet / Modem card, before it is recognized and I get to make another
Back to opinions, the same certainly applies. If instead it is 40 seconds
or even 60 instead of the 20 I mentioned, that's still not an issue for me.
As for the card modem...its not only not a big deal to pop it out and back
in again, I generally fail to see what its needed. The classic battery
need is because you're not near an AC outlet...which usually means you're
not near a phone or ethernet jack either. Unless you're using
cellular...why do you need to reset the card? And if you're using the
card...why do you need to be on battery power?
My thought is when I'm on an airflight. If its 5 or 6 hours, its not a
big deal for me to use one battery for 2.5 to 3, spend 60 seconds
suspending, swapping, and awakening, then work for another 2.5 to 3 hours.
>>Do note that on all three of these items, the 570 has the same
>I thought we were talking about why someone might buy a 770 vs. a 600.
It sort of morphed into that, but the original thread was why anyone would
bother with a 570 when a 770 owner chimed in and said he'd like one. Then
we had some discussion about what the 770 had or could do that the 600
didn't. My main thrust in this thread has been that the 570 is a bad mix
of features. Its not thin or light *enough* to be considered an
ultralight, and when you deck it out with the rest of the stuff by adding
the slice, it becomes a behemoth that apparently exceeds even a 770. Its
not light enough when stripped, and when its *not* stripped its a damn monster.
That ultimately led to this. :-)
Most of us who have used lighter machines don't consider the differences
in function to be anywhere *near* worth carrying the extra 2 lbs. & 1 inch.
- Randy Whittle
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