From: Bill Morrow (penzance_at_icanect.net)
Date: Wed Jun 02 1999 - 00:41:10 EDT
Vince and others..
Vincent Poy wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Bill Morrow wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> First of all, thanks for your input.
>
> > i have not had a kingstom OR an IBM part (other than those shipped
> > with my personal 770) for a long time..
> > ibm has not made their own memory for as long as i can recall..
> > many vendors make it for them..
>
> If IBM doesn't make their own memory, then how can their memory be
> any better than the other out there as they claim?
>
its not..!
> > kingston is good (i think toshiba bought kingston)..
>
> Oh okay, but it seems like Kingston wasn't well known until the
> last few years. It seems before, the only good memory were from Micron,
> Motorola, OKI, NEC, SIEMENS, TI, Samsung and the best thing was like
> Toshiba. The funny thing is my TP385ED actually has IBM memory on the
> motherboard.
>
IBM used to be well known for bum memory chips..or so i was told by a friend who
bought and sold ram chips..
> > apricorn is thinkpad proven, but i have not sold much apricorn lately
> > due to high prices..
>
> Does Apricorn make their own memory or do they just buy the chips
> from other vendors and build the modules?
>
Apricorn and most others buy the chips, then design the little boards...there is
an eprom on the board too..
> > viking is OK too, but the last time i got a 128meg part from them
> > (recently) they still had parts that would not fit the 770X and Z due
> > to the way ibm changed the second dimm socket..
>
> Hmmm, I thought the DIMM sockets were all standard. Ofcourse, I
> did notice that one socket was made by Molex and one isn't.
>
on the 770-1AU and 770ED, the DIMM sockets are oriented in the same direction,
the 770X and 770Z has one of the DIMM sockets "flipped" over, thus the former
upside of the DIMM now was on the boddom and the eprom interfered with the side
of the DIMM socket..this little "bug" took about 6 weeks to get 'fixed' with
goldenram..
got some viking 128meg parts 2 months ago, and they were still using this older
desing..
they were not so interested in my help or comments, so i sent it back and got
the goldenram..
> > goldenram fixed this problem early on when i complained about it..
> > i even got them a rental 770X from a customer so they had a test machine..
> >
> > i personally use the goldenram..
>
> How much does GoldenRam charge for memory? And I guess they buy
> the chips from others too and put together memory sort of like how PNY
> does it? Not sure how Viking does it since I only heard about them but
> never seen it before.
>
Viking had the very first 64meg parts for the 770 when it first came out..they
are a good company, but getting a bit too bnig and diversified, i think..
> > in short, get anything but crucial..
>
> I guess Micron quality must have gone down or something. I always
> thought they manufactured their own memory since they were the ones who
> invented SyncBurst or Pipeline Burst Caching as we would call it for
> Pentium and higher machines.
>
this is what i was told..micron does make their own chips, but chips are not the
total picture..
engineering the board and mfg. is a large component of the eventual quality..
> > i think ibm WILL do a hot swap on memory if you give them a CC #, but
> > so will most..
>
> I never had experience of bad memory before so I don't know how
> they usually do the exchange for a warranty claim. I just thought that
> with IBM, they will ship you everything that a user can change as long as
> it's approved for the machine. Speaking about IBM, I did get the Enhanced
> DVD Video adapter option and for some reason, there are still lots of
> artifacts for DVD's and then does anyone know what each port is used for
> since the manuals doesn't seem to say anything about them or where I can
> get the cables for video and audio.
>
i identified each port..video in, out and dolby i think..
my enh. video works fine.. no problem..
> > i do it for my old customers who i know...
>
> Oh okay, thanks for sharing your experience. Really appreciate
> it. Seems like something in the Preload of Windows98 on the 770Z really
> drains resources fast.
>
i have not experienced this..tight now i'm running the standard preload on a
3.2gig drive with office 2000 beta..
using front page 2000 to redesign thinkpads.com..
the supplied 14gig drive has voice type exec on it.. and the standard preload..
did a restore to one of my 14gig drives and did all the usual things with the
DVD and no artifacts or anything wrong at all...
no problems with any of these..
i know, i know, now you want to know "why the 3.2gig drive"..??
well, they're cheap, fast enough, and i like to play.. why use a 14gig or 10gig
just to experiment..?!
:-)
> Cheers,
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