From: Vincent Poy (vince_at_mail.MCESTATE.COM)
Date: Thu Jun 03 1999 - 08:12:53 EDT
On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Bill Morrow wrote:
Bill and everyone,
> > If IBM doesn't make their own memory, then how can their memory be
> > any better than the other out there as they claim?
>
> its not..!
After I heard about the warranty from you and everyone, it sure
doesn't seem like it.
> > > kingston is good (i think toshiba bought kingston)..
> >
> > Oh okay, but it seems like Kingston wasn't well known until the
> > last few years. It seems before, the only good memory were from Micron,
> > Motorola, OKI, NEC, SIEMENS, TI, Samsung and the best thing was like
> > Toshiba. The funny thing is my TP385ED actually has IBM memory on the
> > motherboard.
>
> IBM used to be well known for bum memory chips..or so i was told by a
> friend who bought and sold ram chips..
When you meant bum, you meant like low quality chips right? I
know NMBS is a brand that absolutely sucks and the chip is slower than
it's rated at.
> > Does Apricorn make their own memory or do they just buy the chips
> > from other vendors and build the modules?
>
> Apricorn and most others buy the chips, then design the little
> boards...there is an eprom on the board too..
Hmmm, so even Crucial does the same thing too? I always thought
Crucial would just use the memory that is made by Micron or is Crucial
just a part of Micron that doesn't even use Micron chips?
> > > viking is OK too, but the last time i got a 128meg part from them
> > > (recently) they still had parts that would not fit the 770X and Z due
> > > to the way ibm changed the second dimm socket..
> >
> > Hmmm, I thought the DIMM sockets were all standard. Ofcourse, I
> > did notice that one socket was made by Molex and one isn't.
>
> on the 770-1AU and 770ED, the DIMM sockets are oriented in the same
> direction, the 770X and 770Z has one of the DIMM sockets "flipped"
> over, thus the former upside of the DIMM now was on the boddom and the
> eprom interfered with the side of the DIMM socket..this little "bug"
> took about 6 weeks to get 'fixed' with
> goldenram..
I never noticed that one of the socket was upside down since I did
take out the memory and put it back in except it's hard to tell which slot
is which.
> got some viking 128meg parts 2 months ago, and they were still using
> this older desing..
> they were not so interested in my help or comments, so i sent it back
> and got the goldenram..
How did they fix it so the chip will work in both slots correctly
since if it's fixed for the upside down socket, wouldn't it have a problem
with the other slot?
> Viking had the very first 64meg parts for the 770 when it first came out..they
> are a good company, but getting a bit too bnig and diversified, i think..
Yeah, I heard of Viking for memory but never got my hands on any.
The guy sold me NEC instead when it was supposed to be Viking a year ago.
Viking didn't seem to make anything else besides memory and now they have
like modems too.
> > > in short, get anything but crucial..
> >
> > I guess Micron quality must have gone down or something. I always
> > thought they manufactured their own memory since they were the ones who
> > invented SyncBurst or Pipeline Burst Caching as we would call it for
> > Pentium and higher machines.
>
> this is what i was told..micron does make their own chips, but chips
> are not the total picture..
> engineering the board and mfg. is a large component of the eventual quality..
I guess their quality really has gone down then. When SyncBurst
or Pieline Burst Caching first came out for the pentium, you had to buy it
>from Micron since their motherboards from Micronics had them.
> > > i think ibm WILL do a hot swap on memory if you give them a CC #, but
> > > so will most..
> >
> > I never had experience of bad memory before so I don't know how
> > they usually do the exchange for a warranty claim. I just thought that
> > with IBM, they will ship you everything that a user can change as long as
> > it's approved for the machine. Speaking about IBM, I did get the Enhanced
> > DVD Video adapter option and for some reason, there are still lots of
> > artifacts for DVD's and then does anyone know what each port is used for
> > since the manuals doesn't seem to say anything about them or where I can
> > get the cables for video and audio.
>
> i identified each port..video in, out and dolby i think..
> my enh. video works fine.. no problem..
Actually, thanks to Donald. It seems like the 770ED Quick-start
mentions the card while the 770Z one doesn't.
> > > i do it for my old customers who i know...
> >
> > Oh okay, thanks for sharing your experience. Really appreciate
> > it. Seems like something in the Preload of Windows98 on the 770Z really
> > drains resources fast.
>
> i have not experienced this..tight now i'm running the standard preload on a
> 3.2gig drive with office 2000 beta..
> using front page 2000 to redesign thinkpads.com..
> the supplied 14gig drive has voice type exec on it.. and the standard preload..
> did a restore to one of my 14gig drives and did all the usual things with the
> DVD and no artifacts or anything wrong at all...
> no problems with any of these..
>
> i know, i know, now you want to know "why the 3.2gig drive"..??
> well, they're cheap, fast enough, and i like to play.. why use a 14gig or 10gig
> just to experiment..?!
>
> :-)
Hehe, atleast 3.2 gigs is still better than that 2.1 gig I have in
the 385ED still.. The only problem I'm experiencing is when the system
starts up, there is 80% free GDI resources, and 18% each on System and
User resources. It has something to do with the preload or the IBM/Intel
Lan Desk Management.
Cheers,
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