From: Vincent Poy (vince_at_mail.MCESTATE.COM)
Date: Thu Jun 03 1999 - 10:19:21 EDT
On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Bill Morrow wrote:
Bill and everyone,
> > After I heard about the warranty from you and everyone, it sure
> > doesn't seem like it.
> >
>
> :-)NOW you know..
> in fact, when the 770-1AU came out, the IBM 64meg parts did not work
> right, only the Viking worked and no one else had any...
Actually, reading that last line is humourous since IBM's own
option won't work in their machines. :-)
> > When you meant bum, you meant like low quality chips right? I
> > know NMBS is a brand that absolutely sucks and the chip is slower than
> > it's rated at.
>
> low quality, slow, high drop out rate, i don't know..only was told
> that these (raw) chips were not highly respected..
Yeah, you're right. I know they made chips but they certainly
weren't popular.
> > Hmmm, so even Crucial does the same thing too? I always thought
> > Crucial would just use the memory that is made by Micron or is Crucial
> > just a part of Micron that doesn't even use Micron chips?
>
> apparently crucial is part of micron who does make their own chips and
> who brought action against offshore chip makers for dumping..whis is
> the reason chip prices are expected to rise very soon..
Oh okay, so that's what they meant by dumping.
> > I never noticed that one of the socket was upside down since I did
> > take out the memory and put it back in except it's hard to tell which slot
> > is which.
>
> when one does this frequently (i usually test run memory i sell when i
> have that particular machine here) I notice the variations..770X and Z
> are quite different from 770-1AU and 770ED..
Yep, it's probably totally different inside as well. Even the
servicer was surprised that the 770Z was modular while the older 770's he
serviced weren't as modular.
> > How did they fix it so the chip will work in both slots correctly
> > since if it's fixed for the upside down socket, wouldn't it have a problem
> > with the other slot?
>
> no, they changed the eprom and moved it slightly..it was only a small
> thing, but if you can't snap the DIMM down on both sides, its got to
> be fixed...
Ah, so it's just the position of where the eprom chip is.
> viking is expanding..theres a whole lot less $$ in it these days..
> and viking has debt, i think, so they MUST adapt or die..
> goldenram is a privately held corp, with no debt and lots of memory on hand..
> apricorn is a private corp too, i think..
> don't know the debt story there, however..
I guess I'll take a look at Kingston, GoldenRam, Viking, not sure
about PNY though since it seems like even for desktop memory, both modules
of the same size use totally different chips.
> micron is, i think, still a good company, except for this 'problem'
> they have..
Yep, I wonder how many returns have they gotten since the Crucial
memory offers a lifetime warranty and the 30 day moneyback guarantee.
> > Actually, thanks to Donald. It seems like the 770ED Quick-start
> > mentions the card while the 770Z one doesn't.
>
> the enh. video card was standard on the 770 & 770E and optional on the
> 770X & Z...
I guess that's why. The Video card manual probably assumed that
people were using the 770 and 770E.
> > Hehe, atleast 3.2 gigs is still better than that 2.1 gig I have in
> > the 385ED still.. The only problem I'm experiencing is when the system
> > starts up, there is 80% free GDI resources, and 18% each on System and
> > User resources. It has something to do with the preload or the IBM/Intel
> > Lan Desk Management.
>
> doubt the preload is doing that..must be something, some task or app,
> taking but not giving back...
Hmmm, it could be the IBM Lan Management thingy that came on the
software selection disk since that seems to open up a DOS prompt to load
during bootup.
Cheers,
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