From: Dave (rdsims_at_odyssey.on.ca)
Date: Fri Apr 21 2000 - 20:38:18 EDT
Hi Mark..
For What It's Worth......
I am currently running:
DOS-all versions 1.1 thru 7.0... Win 3.1...Win
3.11...Win95a...Win95b...Win98...Win98SE...NT4.0.. plus a whole bunch of service
upgrades...Windows 2000, OS/2 ( Red and Blue Spine ) Ver 3, OS/2 Warp Advanced
Server, Linux ( 6 different distributions, all using the latest kernel) and
BEos...........
All O/S's are ported to run on my Commodore 64.... Plays one hell of a game of
Pacman......... <g>
Regards !!!
Dave Sims
Mark Bell wrote:
> At 12:41 PM 04/21/2000 -1000, Keith @ LavaNet wrote:
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: Rob Bell <rbell1_at_netscape.net>
> >>To: ThinkPad Mailing List <thinkpad_at_cs.utk.edu>
> >>Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 11:29 AM
> >>Subject: Re: My contribution to this list
> >>
> >
> >>Even the minor slams like "windoze' that occur frequently aren't needed.
> >>There's nothing constructive or mature about them. We're all adults here
> >(I
> >>can't imagine a lot of kids have a need for or can afford a ThinkPad), so
> >>let's keep things professional. I don't necessarily love Microsoft or
> >>Windows, but it permeates the marketplace (every one of my clients has used
> >>Windows), so I accept it.
> >>
> >>Rob
> >
> >--Um I dunno about everyone else here, but I digress Rob. I'm here because
> >I love the product (IBM thinkpads) and love tinkering with them and all
> >other computers. While this list has been really helpful to me for my work,
> >I thought this list was for the sharing of knowledge and general enjoyment
> >of the Thinkpad experience. Sure we may all be adults, but it's the kid
> >inside of us all who loves to tinker and play with our laptops in different
> >ways. I don't believe we need to keep anything "professional" on this list,
> >just friendly. If the list feels like bashing microsoft, let's bash
> >microsoft. Through our bellyaching one our more talented members may find a
> >solution to our problems. Sure we accept microsofts products, and the ones
> >of us who don't simply use Linux, or Beos instead. In essence I'd say it's
> >all good. Everyone of our comments are great so long as they don't hurt
> >anyones feelings (sans Mr. Bill Gates-his feelings don't matter here.). The
> >most recent charlitan hunt that went on to expose the phony TP 600 sellers
> >on Ebay is a good example of the spirit of this group. It wasn't
> >professional but it was great to see a bunch of guys and gals watch out for
> >eachother and for prospective TP owners as well. So if Jon wants to bash
> >MS, fine. Just don't bash eachother, we're all on the same side right?
> >Maybe Jon knows of an ideal OS for a certain TP model. Jon? On the
> >Internet we've still got a right to our own opinions and freedom of speech
> >right? Let's use it for something nifty! That's it, just my 2cents and a
> >billion in change. =) Play on!
>
> That's the difference. The ebay/yahoo issue was informative, helpful, and
> factual.
> Bashing another OS is not helpful. It IS opinionated and rarely
> informative. A lot
> of people do not like having their OS of choice chided or ridiculed. You
> may not believe
> it, but OSes are sensitive spot to some users. They're not going to switch
> because someone
> else bashes it. Instead, they're going to get irritated. "OS/2 is better than
> Windoze!" "Linux is better than OhULoseTwo!" "Windows is better than Crappix"
> and it gets worse. :) It is a lose/lose proposition. What positive, helpful
> content comes out of:
>
> "You mean you would actualy PAY money to get windoze? I don't believe this,
> i'd rather put my employer to pay for that, than spend my personal money
> of a rather sad excuse of an operating system (even if it has good hardware
> detection)."
>
> In the usenet groups and other lists, OSwars breed hostility and negativity
> and when
> it comes down to it, it will offer nothing to this list. We're not on this
> list to
> debate OSes. We're here to discuss Thinkpads and their products. I've been
> involved
> and witnessed enough OSwars and OSbashing to realize no side ever wins and
> it really
> does breed resentment along with the other things I mentioned above. Like one
> netzien said, "Three things you never debate: Operating Systems, Religion and
> Politics.....IN THAT ORDER!" :) If comments or messages like the quote above
> started popping up in other lists and usenet groups, most of the readers would
> assign it, "TROLL," status. >:-P
>
> Mark
>
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