From: Bill Morrow (penzance_at_gate.net)
Date: Sat Apr 27 2002 - 13:40:49 EDT
ebay has its good points..
and many many many caveat emptor's..
most noticeably anyone with little or no feedback selling a new and
unobtainable thinkpad (and all other similarly situated items) with payument
first and in cash or cash equivalent..
news groups are probably much better for most stuff as you are dealing with
a person and not a screen name..
i mean, who wants to buy something from a person with a screen name like
"scruu14521"..?
i would say that, for me, ebay has produced a few diamonds and many piles of
crap in a brown paper bag..
i think a newsgroup would be a place to search first, then ebay as a last
resort..
OH, preparing a list of crooks and bad guys has been done..
there WAS a web site with such names..
but who can be sure the complainer has a valid complaint, AND who can be
sure the bad guy will not change his name..?!
<------------------------------->
Cordially, :-)
Bill Morrow
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ellis Weiner" <eweiner_at_nni.com>
Cc: <thinkpad_at_cs.utk.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Proposal: Prepare list of dishonest IBM Sellers
> Oscar--
>
> I've never bought anything on E-bay, but I bought my entire stereo
> system (used, at essentially half price) from various people on
> rec.audio.marketplace, and was struck by how honest and easy it all was.
One
> reason was that many, of not all, of these guys are regular members of the
group
> and appear there all the time. (One even refunded money via a credit card
when
> one of the cables I bought from him didn't fit.) Meaning: maybe the place
to
> get deals is from a smaller, more dedicated affinity group (like this
list),
> instead of the huge, impersonal mall of Ebay.
> Others here will, I'm sure, have different thoughts.
>
> Ellis
>
>
>
> Oscar Farah wrote:
>
> > I had originally joined this list to try to get an IBM 720 to perform
some
> > usefull work; I have not looked at the 720 since then but have enjoyed
> > reading the comments and discussions of other IBM oroducts! I have been
an
> > eBay subscriber for around 5 years and had been satisfied with my
> > membership.
> >
> > About 6 months ago, I got a good deal on an IBM 560 Laptop that needed
> > additional peripherals to make it useable. I did a search on eBay and
> > started ordering "IBM components". I have been shocked by the number of
> > "dishonest" (actually a much stronger adjective applies here) sellers
that
> > claim to be selling something "as is" because they cannot test it when
it is
> > visibly damaged and does not work; other sellers who send you broken
> > disfigured components that "looks like new"; and others who do not send
you
> > anything at all after they receive your money.
> >
> > I would like to propose that we create an archive of Dishonest Sellers.
> > This archive will contain the name of the seller and a short description
of
> > the incident. We can then use it to boycott those sellers and drive them
> > away from IBM products.
> >
> > Oscar Farah
>
>
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