From: Toni Kennedy (cruelpeep_at_yourvillage.com)
Date: Wed Jul 17 2002 - 18:03:00 EDT
There is no doubt in my mind that the 770 and 600 model thinkpads were/are
the best laptops ever made. The 380 series isn't bad either. all have great
keyboards.
toni
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Wells <ajwells_at_ix.netcom.com>
To: <thinkpad_at_cs.utk.edu>
Cc: <edward.mendelson_at_verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: 600 keyboard vs T2x keyboard?
> Well everyone has a different opinion on this matter, but to me its not
> even debatable... I have 2 600x's and a T23 which I use mainly because
> of the ability to run a large external screen... so I usually use that
> one with an outboard keyboard... if I have to do extended typing away
> from my desk I always use the 600x because its so drastically superior
> to the T series keyboard... they clearly made some design compromises
> regarding the support structure of the keyboard, probably to fit in
> modern components or to save manufacturing costs... but in any case the
> entire keyboard on the T series is mushy and has a soft spots which vary
> from machine to machine... the travel of the keys on the right side of
> my keyboard are very short and the travel of the keys on the left side
> are very long, with several keys making loud popping sounds when you
> press them... on friends T series machines, the soft spots are in
> different places, but they are still there... when you put your finger
> into the card slot or the ultrabay slot you can push upward and feel the
> entire keyboard flex and shift around in its setting, in contrast to the
> 600x which is dead solid and moves not one bit... all in all the
> keyboard may be acceptable to some, but it in no way approaches the 600x
> keyboard and is actually a few steps below HP, Toshiba and Compaq...
> quite a step down for people expecting superior quality when they pay
> more for big blue... it actually goes beyond the keyboard to the design
> and build of the entire machine, but that's another rant in itself...
> but for me, the poor keyboard combined with the searing heat of the T23
> which radiates up through the keyboard area makes for a very
> uncomfortable ergonomic experience... if I did not use it in a dock with
> an external keyboard and monitor most of the time I would be back on my
> trusty 600x in a heartbeat
>
> If you are sensitive to these aspects (which you must be if you are
> asking the question), then I would stick with a 600 series by all
> means... they are more than up the the job of most word processing or
> spreadsheet shuffling tasks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edward Mendelson [mailto:edward.mendelson_at_verizon.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:03 PM
> To: thinkpad_at_cs.utk.edu
> Subject: 600 keyboard vs T2x keyboard?
>
> This may have been discussed in recent months when I was away from the
> list,
> but I hope no one will mind if I bring up the question now.
>
> Does anyone have strong views on whether the 600 keyboard is better or
> worse
> than the T2x keyboards? The general view seems to be that the 600
> keyboard
> was the best of all, but someone who knows Thinkpads very, very well
> told me
> recently that he prefers the T20 keyboard. I know I can't get the
> classic
> IBM full-size keyboard feel on a laptop, but does anyone have a sense of
> which of the TP keyboards comes closest to the classic IBM feel?
>
> Many thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Edward Mendelson
>
>
>
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