From: Bill Morrow (marrow_at_adelphia.net)
Date: Thu Oct 17 2002 - 18:20:32 EDT
my guess is they DID pay the M$ tax and its built in..
the premium is for them doing all the work tuning linux up on the X2x series
or the T series..
their prices are a bit high for some of the hardware items..
<------------------------------->
Cordially, :-)
Bill Morrow
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
thinkpads.com Open Forum
http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login?
or go to thinkpads.com and link from there
E-Mail: bill at thinkpads dot com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mick McQuaid" <mcquaid_at_u.arizona.edu>
To: "Bill Morrow" <marrow_at_adelphia.net>
Cc: "Julian" <jmw_at_ptolserv.com>; <thinkpad_at_cs.utk.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: buying a thinkpad without microsoft is NOT POSSIBLE from IBM
> What about this?
>
> http://www.emperorlinux.com/raven.html
>
> I am curious, of course, about whether this
> company paid the "Microsoft Tax" and built it in
> to their X30, or whether their premium just
> reflects value they add. This may not seem like
> an important distinction to my wallet, but it is
> to my sense of freedom from unregulated monopoly.
> I am also curious if anyone has any dealings with
> / opinions of this vendor.
>
> ... regarding a message from Bill Morrow on Oct 17:
> > i'm not sure..
> > i think that as a dealer i CAN NOT and they as a seller WILL NOT..
> >
> > i was thinking, while in bed this AM, what would happen if i peeled the
> > license tab off the bottom of a new thinkpad and returned it for credit
as i
> > do not agree to the EULA..?! :-)
> >
> > but i don't want to cause trouble between ibm and myself.. :-)
> >
> > so i think i'll ask my customer what the result was in the penalty phase
of
> > USA vs. M$ upon which they were consultants...
> > <------------------------------->
> > Cordially, :-)
> > Bill Morrow
> > WEB page http://thinkpads.com
> > thinkpads.com Open Forum
> > http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login?
> > or go to thinkpads.com and link from there
> > E-Mail: bill at thinkpads dot com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Julian" <jmw_at_ptolserv.com>
> > To: <thinkpad_at_cs.utk.edu>
> > Cc: <thinkpad_at_cs.utk.edu>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 4:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: buying a thinkpad without microsoft is NOT POSSIBLE from
IBM
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:37:19 -0400, "Bill Morrow" <penzance_at_gate.net>,
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Sadly i was wrong..
> > > IBM can NOT sell a thinkpad without an OS.. and M$ is the only OS
> > > available..
> > Surely, if it really is "can NOT" then that is a violation of the DoJ
> > settlement? I assume you mean "will NOT" ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Julian Wald
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Mick McQuaid, mcquaid_at_u.arizona.edu
> 520-621-4074 office / voice mail
>
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