From: Bruce Markowitz (scosgt_at_worldnet.att.net)
Date: Tue Dec 24 2002 - 12:09:28 EST
It does not matter how many colors it "overlays" on, THe final image is the
same
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stanton Young" <stantony123_at_hotmail.com>
To: <scosgt_at_worldnet.att.net>; <jberry_at_islandnet.com>
Cc: <thinkpad_at_stderr.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Margi DVD-to-Go: Using other DVD SW Players?
> Quite. Overlay. Right. Overylay on the resolution. Margi wont overlay
on
> 16 or 32 million colors. Only on 256K
>
> The other players overlay on those wonderful millions of colors!
>
> I dont have an AGP bus on my system. Older thinkpads just have a measly
PCI
> bus.
>
> Bruce! I CONCEDE!
>
>
>
> >From: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt_at_worldnet.att.net>
> >To: "Stanton Young" <stantony123_at_hotmail.com>, <jberry_at_islandnet.com>
> >CC: <thinkpad_at_stderr.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Margi DVD-to-Go: Using other DVD SW Players?
> >Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:24:04 -0500
> >
> >First of all, it does not matter what resolution they "put out".
> >All DVD players work on an overlay (or they don't work right!) and what
you
> >see is what's on the DVD. The only thing is, some need to reduce the
screen
> >resolution to make the overlay, that's a different thing.
> >I think you have somehow corrupted your settings so that the Margi card
is
> >the default DVD decoder, which is causing your findings. The fact is, the
> >other decoders do not access or use the hardware, and should work the
same
> >with the Margi card in or out, so something is amiss in your system.
> >I used a 600E 400MHZ for quite a while, I used PowerDVD, etc and a Margi
> >card, one has nothing to do with the other.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Stanton Young" <stantony123_at_hotmail.com>
> >To: <jberry_at_islandnet.com>
> >Cc: <scosgt_at_worldnet.att.net>; <thinkpad_at_stderr.org>
> >Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 5:13 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Margi DVD-to-Go: Using other DVD SW Players?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > overbearing!
> > >
> > > I didnt admit he was right, I just don't want to argue.
> > >
> > > Bruce's posts are invaluable to this forum and things he wrote worked
> >for
> > > me, I am not going to slam him.
> > >
========================================================================
> > > From my short and simple experience. I tried several combinations of
> > > SoftDVD players with the margi card and without the margi card.
> > >
> > > Everytime I didnt use the margi card, the play was choppy.
> > >
> > > Unless Bruce meant to say you cant get TV OUT on the card with other
> > > software then he is totally right. WinDVD and DVDExpress do not have
TV
> >out
> > > properties. The Margi Software does.
> > >
========================================================================
> > > Some more things to ponder as well... PowerDVD and WinDVD can put out
> >on
> > > 16million not just 256K video settings.
> > >
> > > DVDExpress and Margi Software only work at 256K.
> > >
> > > Stanton
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: jberry_at_islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry)
> > > >To: stantony123_at_hotmail.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Margi DVD-to-Go: Using other DVD SW Players?
> > > >Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:58:08 -0800
> > > >
> > > >Should I try out your suggestion? Did you "concede" because of
> > > >Bruce's overbearing -- or was there some technical reason that
> > > >made you admit he is right?
> > > >
> > > >I have a 366 600E and a friend has a Margi card (but no DVD
> > > >drive). I could "borrow" the Margi card.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >In article <F40PAY84Ikv3ySjWryw000009bd_at_hotmail.com>, you wrote:
> > > > >I concede!
> > > > >
> > > > >>From: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt_at_worldnet.att.net>
> > > > >>To: "Stanton Young"
<stantony123_at_hotmail.com>,<thinkpad_at_stderr.org>
> > > > >>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Margi DVD-to-Go: Using other DVD SW
Players?
> > > > >>Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:06:19 -0500
> > > > >>
> > > > >>TOTALLY WRONG
> > > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>From: "Stanton Young" <stantony123_at_hotmail.com>
> > > > >>To: <thinkpad_at_stderr.org>
> > > > >>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:44 AM
> > > > >>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Margi DVD-to-Go: Using other DVD SW
Players?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I would have to disagree.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Software players have the ability to use hardware decoders.
They
> >can
> > > >be
> > > > >> > stand alone and play choppy. When a decoder chip is available,
> >the
> > > > >>software
> > > > >> > uses the chip.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > The experiment: Play DVD with Margi and DVD express (nothing
> >else
> > > > >>running)
> > > > >> > Result: Excellent playback.
> > > > >> > Check: System Kernal Monitor CPU USAGE 20%
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > The experiement: Remove Margi card and play DVD with DVD
express
> > > >only.
> > > > >> > Result: Choppy Playback.
> > > > >> > Check: System Kernal Monitor CPU USAGE 99%
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Unless I have some Frankenstein software. I would believe that
> >all
> > > > >>softDVD
> > > > >> > players have some kind of ability to access the decoder chip if
> > > > >>available.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Best
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > S
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >From: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt_at_worldnet.att.net>
> > > > >> > >To: "Stanton Young" <stantony123_at_hotmail.com>,
> > > ><gorenbergh_at_mags.net>,
> > > > >> > ><thinkpad_at_stderr.org>
> > > > >> > >Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Margi DVD-to-Go: Using other DVD SW
> >Players?
> > > > >> > >Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:15:36 -0500
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >I regret to say that you are confused
> > > > >> > >DVD Express is a software player - it has nothing at all to do
> >with
> > > >the
> > > > >> > >Margi card
> > > > >> > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> > >From: "Stanton Young" <stantony123_at_hotmail.com>
> > > > >> > >To: <scosgt_at_worldnet.att.net>; <gorenbergh_at_mags.net>;
> > > > >><thinkpad_at_stderr.org>
> > > > >> > >Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:09 PM
> > > > >> > >Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Margi DVD-to-Go: Using other DVD SW
> >Players?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > DVD EXpress works with it.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I got it from P Khoury's site.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > It works better I think.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > >From: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt_at_worldnet.att.net>
> > > > >> > > > >To: "Steven Gorenbergh" <gorenbergh_at_mags.net>,
"Thinkpad"
> > > > >> > > > ><thinkpad_at_stderr.org>
> > > > >> > > > >Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Margi DVD-to-Go: Using other DVD
SW
> > > > >>Players?
> > > > >> > > > >Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:27:51 -0500
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >NO
> > > > >> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> > > > >From: "Steven Gorenbergh" <gorenbergh_at_mags.net>
> > > > >> > > > >To: "Thinkpad" <thinkpad_at_stderr.org>
> > > > >> > > > >Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:40 AM
> > > > >> > > > >Subject: [Thinkpad] Margi DVD-to-Go: Using other DVD SW
> >Players?
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > Can other DVD SW Players (i.e WinDVD, PowerDVD) be used
> > > > >> > > > > > with the Margi DVD-to-Go card?
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > If yes, which ones are recommended?
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > TIA, Steve
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
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