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From: BLITZSTEIN-INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES <truthfinder_at_comcast.net> Date: Sun Oct 26 2003 - 01:12:10 EST · > This sounds reasonable to me. At first I thought I could hear

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Best regards,
 Adam
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:35:21 -0400
From: "STeve Andre'" <andres@msu.edu>
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] 600x and Linux
To: Adam <adam_src@fastmail.fm>, thinkpad@stderr.org
Message-ID: <200310252035.21118.andres@msu.edu>
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When you post a question like this you need to include *all*
the info from the error message.   I'm not a RedHat user,
but I will guess that your partitions are overlapping.  This 
works 'till one partition runs into the boundary of another
and then all hell breaks loose.  Supplying the entire error
message is always the right thing to do in cases like this.
You can't supply too much information when asking questions.
--STeve Andre'
On Saturday 25 October 2003 08:36 pm, Adam wrote:
> I decided I would try installing Red Hat Linux for the moment,
> and think about Windows later.
>
> I started the install. After I picked a wheel mouse, it said:
> Warning
> // The partition table on /dev/hda is inconsistent. ...+4-5 more
> sentences.
>
> Since I mentioned everything done since the hard drive was formatted,
> does this seem something anomalous?
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 02:41:53 +0000
From: Michal Pasternak <michal@pasternak.w.lub.pl>
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] 600x and Linux
To: Adam <adam_src@fastmail.fm>
Cc: thinkpad@stderr.org
Message-ID: <20031026024153.GA11010@pasternak.w.lub.pl>
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Adam [Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:06:12PM -0230]:
> I decided I would try installing Red Hat Linux for the moment,
> and think about Windows later.
> 
> I started the install. After I picked a wheel mouse, it said:
> Warning
> // The partition table on /dev/hda is inconsistent. ...+4-5 more
> sentences.
If your hard drive is empty, just create a new and, what's more important,
_correct_ partition table.
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Michal Pasternak :: http://pasternak.w.lub.pl
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:31:45 -0230
From: Adam <adam_src@fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] 600x and Linux
To: andres@msu.edu
Cc: thinkpad@stderr.org
Message-ID: <105319809.20031025223145@fastmail.fm>
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Saturday, October 25, 2003, 10:05:21 PM, you wrote:
> When you post a question like this you need to include *all*
> the info from the error message.
The partition table on /dev/hda is inconsistent. There are many
reasons why this might be the case. Often the reason is that
Linux detected the BIOS geometry incorrectly. However, this does
not appear to be the case here. It is safe to ignore, but
ignoring may cause(fixable) problems with some boot loaders,
and may cause problems with FAT file systems. Using LBA is
recommended.
END QUOTE
>    I'm not a RedHat user,
> but I will guess that your partitions are overlapping.  This 
> works 'till one partition runs into the boundary of another
> and then all hell breaks loose.  Supplying the entire error
The state of the hard drive is like just a complete format, yesterday.
Only one file was left on the hard drive.
And today I created a Win98 directory and copied some files there.
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Best regards,
 Adam                         
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:51:10 -0230
From: Adam <adam_src@fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] 600x and Linux
To: Michal Pasternak <michal@pasternak.w.lub.pl>
Cc: thinkpad@stderr.org
Message-ID: <1836485225.20031025225110@fastmail.fm>
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Sunday, October 26, 2003, 12:11:53 AM, you wrote:
>> Warning
>> // The partition table on /dev/hda is inconsistent. ...+4-5 more
>> sentences.
> If your hard drive is empty, just create a new and, what's more important,
> _correct_ partition table.
I would rely on software to do that. As a Windows user, I've never
needed one. From one I read on some webpages, it seems you need some
Partition Magic program to do that. And I never purchased that one.
I, hopefully, described all the details for the state of the hard
drive. Do you think it is telling me something accurately? Could it be
saying that the partition does not allow an operating system to store
files freely on the drive?
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Best regards,
 Adam                         
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 03:25:43 +0000
From: Michal Pasternak <michal@pasternak.w.lub.pl>
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] 600x and Linux
To: Adam <adam_src@fastmail.fm>
Cc: Michal Pasternak <michal@pasternak.w.lub.pl>, thinkpad@stderr.org
Message-ID: <20031026032543.GA11916@pasternak.w.lub.pl>
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Adam [Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:51:10PM -0230]:
> I would rely on software to do that. As a Windows user, I've never
> needed one. From one I read on some webpages, it seems you need some
> Partition Magic program to do that. And I never purchased that one.
Every Linux distribution has a program called "fdisk" available. RedHat
Linux installator might also include something like this (but I don't know
for sure, I never used RedHat Linux). Could you somehow boot from the
installation CD to a console, launch there "fdisk /dev/hda", then just enter
"p" and tell us, what it says?
Regards,
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Michal Pasternak :: http://pasternak.w.lub.pl
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:38:50 -0700
From: James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51@sprintpcs.com>
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] 600x and Linux
To: thinkpad@stderr.org
Cc: Michal Pasternak <michal@pasternak.w.lub.pl>
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Adam:
This is for the mailing list;
Red Hat comes with a graphical hard drive partitioning software called 
Disk Druid, which is recommended by other Thinkpad users and the Red Hat 
community at large for new Linux users.  As an experienced user, I used 
Disk Druid to set up the hard drive on my A22p and 600E so that the 
drive could be swapped between both machines without problems.
James McKenzie
Adam wrote:
>Sunday, October 26, 2003, 12:11:53 AM, you wrote:
>
>  
>
>>>Warning
>>>// The partition table on /dev/hda is inconsistent. ...+4-5 more
>>>sentences.
>>>      
>>>
>
>  
>
>>If your hard drive is empty, just create a new and, what's more important,
>>_correct_ partition table.
>>    
>>
>
>I would rely on software to do that. As a Windows user, I've never
>needed one. From one I read on some webpages, it seems you need some
>Partition Magic program to do that. And I never purchased that one.
>
>I, hopefully, described all the details for the state of the hard
>drive. Do you think it is telling me something accurately? Could it be
>saying that the partition does not allow an operating system to store
>files freely on the drive?
>
>  
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:49:03 -0230
From: Adam <adam_src@fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] 600x and Linux
To: Michal Pasternak <michal@pasternak.w.lub.pl>
Cc: thinkpad@stderr.org
Message-ID: <11113558275.20031026004903@fastmail.fm>
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Sunday, October 26, 2003, 12:55:43 AM, you wrote:
> Every Linux distribution has a program called "fdisk" available. RedHat
> Linux installator might also include something like this (but I don't know
> for sure, I never used RedHat Linux). Could you somehow boot from the
> installation CD to a console, launch there "fdisk /dev/hda", then just
enter 
> "p" and tell us, what it says?
I stopped the install. The Thinkpad wouldn't let me remove the CD
while the install was running. So I had to turn it off. I check the
Red Hat CD. But it doesn't seem to contain an Fdisk program.
I was reading about the Disk Druid. This mount point that it refers
to, is that like any name that you come up with. And this is placed
in the main directory?
Is it something you design creatively, like you name letters to print,
messages, or graphics files?
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Best regards,
 Adam                         
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:33:15 +0000
From: Michal Pasternak <michal@pasternak.w.lub.pl>
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] 600x and Linux
To: Adam <adam_src@fastmail.fm>
Cc: Michal Pasternak <michal@pasternak.w.lub.pl>, thinkpad@stderr.org
Message-ID: <20031026053315.GA12327@pasternak.w.lub.pl>
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Adam [Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 12:49:03AM -0230]:
> I stopped the install. The Thinkpad wouldn't let me remove the CD
> while the install was running.
It's normal when you're running Linux or BSD Unix on your hardware. Before
the CD drive is accessed, it must be mounted. Mounting automatically locks
the tray, so you can't open it while the drive is in use. Remember those
blue screens happening every time, when you ejected a CD currently being
used in Windows 98 ? Well, they don't happen on Unix.
> So I had to turn it off. I check the
> Red Hat CD. But it doesn't seem to contain an Fdisk program.
Well, fdisk might be packed together with other utilities in some image,
which is installed as a ram disk during installation. That's why I told you
about using console while the installer is running.
> I was reading about the Disk Druid. This mount point that it refers
> to, is that like any name that you come up with. And this is placed
> in the main directory?
If you create single partition for your Linux installation, it will be
mounted as a root directory (it's name will be simply '/'). If you create
other partitions, you can tell the installer to automatically setup them to
be mounted at certain mount points (eg. /usr, /var, /mysecondpartition and
such).
As our discussion is getting a bit OT, I'd suggest reading
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/install-guide/ or
how-to documents from http://tldp.org , then, if you're in doubt, e-mail my
private account. 
I'd use DiskDruid to create just one partition (it's a wise setup for a
desktop/laptop system), with about 3 - 8 GB of free space (you won't need
more if you're just learning/testing it; you can use your windows partition
to share files with Windows installation); also about 200 - 300 MB of swap
partition would be ok for a desktop.
Regards,
-- 
Michal Pasternak :: http://pasternak.w.lub.pl
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:35:57 -0700
From: James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51@sprintpcs.com>
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] 600x and Linux
To: Adam <adam_src@fastmail.fm>, thinkpad@stderr.org
Message-ID: <3F9B411D.5070808@sprintpcs.com>
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Adam wrote:
>Sunday, October 26, 2003, 12:55:43 AM, you wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Every Linux distribution has a program called "fdisk" available. RedHat
>>Linux installator might also include something like this (but I don't know
>>for sure, I never used RedHat Linux). Could you somehow boot from the
>>installation CD to a console, launch there "fdisk /dev/hda", then just
enter 
>>"p" and tell us, what it says?
>>    
>>
>
>I stopped the install. The Thinkpad wouldn't let me remove the CD
>while the install was running. So I had to turn it off. I check the
>Red Hat CD. But it doesn't seem to contain an Fdisk program.
>  
>
Hmmm.  My installation contains the program fdisk (it is a linux 
program, not a dos/Windows version.) 
>I was reading about the Disk Druid. This mount point that it refers
>to, is that like any name that you come up with. And this is placed
>in the main directory?
>
The 'root' directory is named '/'.  You can build several 'mount points' 
which can corespond like the following and is based on my system:
/ corresponds to /dev/hda1
/opt corresponds to /dev/hda2
/oracle corresponds to /dev/hda3
/oracle/data corresponds to /dev/hda6
I have an extended partition as /dev/hda4
and the swap partition is located at /dev/hda5
Now, I could have set up a Windows partition at /dev/hda2 as FAT32 or NTFS.
>
>Is it something you design creatively, like you name letters to print,
>messages, or graphics files?
>  
>
I recommend using Linux standard names such as /opt (for optional 
software packages), /usr (for user installed programs), /root (for root 
configuration files), /var and /tmp (for temporary files).  Using names 
such as /wazoo is not recommended.
You should look at the on-line documentation and the documentation 
included with the Red Hat distro.  There is an installation guide on the 
first disk for Red Hat.  Please look at it and review before starting 
the installation process.
James McKenzie
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