Re: [Thinkpad] Anyone using an IEEE-1394/Firewire PCMCIA card withT41?

Erase was attempted from the DFT with the 60GB but due to the firmware it
failed. Neat, eh?

As to the FDISK not getting rid of everything, true, but when the restore
not only formats the drive in FAT32 but then copies over more data than it
plans to keep (since it needs a workspace to work on) and then converts the
drive to NTFS, odds are everything is gone.

Anyway, here's a screen shot of my IEEE card plugged in
(http://www.starfire-inc.com/ebay/ibm_screen.jpg) and the drive NOT showing
up anywhere in Explorer. Please give me the benefit of the doubt that I
know how to plug in a FireWire cable and AC Adapter. And yes, the enclosure
works and the cable works because they've been tested on other machines.

I would also appreciate from this point on to be given the ability to tell
you to shove your restore discs, the next time you suggest them, because a)
it only wasted 2 hours of my time to prove a point and b) it's NOT always a
viable solution to EVERY problem and c) given my experiences with XP, and
that no extra IBM driver was offered or required, there was no reason to
think that it would help.

So, Mr. Restore, what would you do for your customer now?

The question still remains, thought: might there be something wrong with the
hardware or is it still thought to be driver related?

>From: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt@worldnet.att.net>
>To: "Starfire CT" <starfirect@hotmail.com>,<thinkpad@stderr.org>
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Anyone using an IEEE-1394/Firewire PCMCIA card
>withT41?
>Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 22:13:11 -0500
>
>You know, if that was my customers machine and they were having all those
>problems, I would wipe the drive (using ERASE from the DFT or WIPE.COM from
>IBM) because a format or FDISK does NOT really get rid of everything. THEN
>I
>would do a complete restore. Sometimes that is the only way, and if that
>fails, there is some hardware problem.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Starfire CT" <starfirect@hotmail.com>
>To: <thinkpad@stderr.org>
>Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 9:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Anyone using an IEEE-1394/Firewire PCMCIA card
>withT41?
>
>
> > @Deanna - Yes, XP on all the machines I've tried it on. The Sony's have
> > 4pin 1394 build in and my Asus has it on the motherboard, but XP simply
> > supports it. I did some searches for drivers an ALL of the sites I've
>seen
> > says the same thing: no drive required. I would plug in a card into a
> > desktop but I don't have PCMCIA reader there and this is the only
>notebook
>I
> > have at the moment.
> >
> > @Bruce - There are no extra PCMCIA drives per IBM and they don't have
>their
> > own FireWire driver - it's all natively supported by XP - AND IBM
>SUPPORTS
> > ME INSTALLING MY OWN COPY OF XP WITHOUT USING THEIR RESTORE OPTION! For
> > feck's sake, pay attention: please don't MAKE me post the help document
>that
> > tells me I can do this if I want to. Further more if you don't have
> > anything that is helpful for me on my emails, please stop responding
>because
> > you are NOT helpful in these situations. The initial crashes were
>caused
> > from IBM driver like Access Connections and AHP and were still happening
> > WHEN I USED THE RESTORE DISCs. So how does reinstalling their faulty
> > software help me in this or any other problem? It doesn't!
> >
> > The question I have is if I've got issues with the Intel WiFi card, and
>the
> > hard drive protection, and the booting off a USB drive, and swapped
>memory
> > with a new module, AND now this PCMCIA issue... well doesn't that
>strange?
> >
> > I did order an IBM a/b/g WiFi card tonight to try in the machine
>sometime
> > this week... I'm hoping the IBM drivers are better than the Intel
>drivers,
> > but I also upgraded my WiFi AP to 11g. If I drop that in and it can't
> > connect to anything either, it's high time I send the machine in for a
>new
> > motherboard or something.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt@worldnet.att.net>
> > >To: "Starfire CT" <starfirect@hotmail.com>,<thinkpad@stderr.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Anyone using an IEEE-1394/Firewire PCMCIA card
>with
> > >T41?
> > >Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 20:52:18 -0500
> > >
> > >Now wait.......
> > >Isn't this the machine that you absolutely refused to do an IBM
>install,
> > >instead choosing to use a generic copy of XP and manually install the
> > >drivers????
> > >If that is the case , it seems to me that we have been down this road
> > >before - you are probably missing some needed drivers and files.
> > >I have had a very hard time educating people that laptops are DIFFERENT
> > >than
> > >desktops and they just don't work right if you don't do a proper setup,
> > >which is always best when done with the factory recovery CD.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Starfire CT" <starfirect@hotmail.com>
> > >To: <thinkpad@stderr.org>
> > >Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 4:06 PM
> > >Subject: [Thinkpad] Anyone using an IEEE-1394/Firewire PCMCIA card with
> > >T41?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've gotten two different PCMCIA cards to try to hook up an external
>HD
> > >via
> > > > FireWire. One card has 3 ports on it, the other has 2 ports. XP
> > >recognizes
> > > > the card just fine.
> > > >
> > > > When I use the 3 port card with my external HD/enclosure, it finds
>the
> > >drive
> > > > for a second and then loses it. When I use the 2 port card, it
>stays
> > > > visible but XP tells me it has issues when writing to the drive
>because
> > >it
> > > > might be "missing". In all trials I've hooked up the drives to an
> > >external
> > > > power supply, so they are definately getting enough power to spin.
> > >Without
> > > > the adapater the 2 port sends NO power at all and the 3 port sends
>some
> > >but
> > > > not enough to fully spin the drive.
> > > >
> > > > The current drive works fine in its current enclosure via the USB2
>port.
> > > > I've tried the cards with different enclosures and different drives
>(and
> > >all
> > > > of this hardware has worked fine when I used them with the on-board
>1394
> > > > ports of my old Sony notebooks and on my current desktop (ASUS
>onboard
> > > > 1394)) so I doubt it's either of them. The PCMCIA cards came from
> > >different
> > > > source and made by different manufacturers so I can't believe
>they're
> > >both
> > > > shot, but I've only got access to one notebook so I can't test that
> > >theory.
> > > >
> > > > So has anyone else tried this? I'm beginning to wonder if I've
>gotten
>a
> > > > "troubled" machine here... the USB support is iffy: booting doesn't
>work
> > > > with anything but a floppy drive and only a couple enclosures have
> > >worked
> > > > 100% - it chokes on USB/HD's or USB Keydrives. My Intel WiFi card
>is
> > >iffy:
> > > > the current one works most times (assuming the crashing has been
>driver
> > > > related) but when I got a replacement card, it wouldn't connect to
>ANY
> > > > network (and it sees three of them). Now 2 out of 2 FireWire/PCMCIA
> > >cards
> > > > act weird, whenever a drive is plugged in.
> > > >
> > > > And yet I still love the notebook. Go figure... I don't know that I
>can
> > > > part with it long enough for service, though. I mean I would if I
>had
> > >to
> > > > and there was definately something wrong, but sending it in just
> > >"because
> > > > it's been sorta weird" seems like it's a waste of time.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
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