Re: [Thinkpad] 560Z Pentium II Module type?

Hiya Kev,

>>I acquired a Thinkpad 560Z this weekend just gone (a cool £30 for the
>>300MHz variant, 128MB but no hard disk) which I am aiming to use as my
>>server.
>
>
> Hi Vicky. Damn you and your recent luck in getting good stable hardware
> cheap.

:-) I do have my ways in doing so, a T23 for £400 with two year warranty
and decent spec (30gb hdisk, win xp pro, piii 1.13GHz and 512mb); a 560X
in mint condition for £25 and now a 560Z for £30 :-)

Question is whether I have room!! *shoves flower vase out the way, now
there's some room!*

>>This should be just fine for running Windows 2000 and all of the rest of
>>it; as the 560Z will just stay at home and be permamently connected to
>>my ADSL connection with some aid of dyndns will spoof some form of
>>static IP stuff.
>
> Ummm...Yeah, you might want to bump up the memory count (Oh wait, the 560Z
> uses EDO memory...) never mind,

I can get 128MB EDO memory for about £45, may consider this if things
become something of a dog, but as I say I only intent to run my
webserver and run my net connection through it, no usage of
applications, thats what my T23 and 560X are for. So 128MB should suffice.

> uhm, I mean, run it clean...disable all
> non-esential services and keep the WindowsUpdate auto-running. Then merge
> one of these settings into your registry to keep kiddies out.
>
> http://www.wi2600.org/archives/securing_windows/

Thanks for the link! Presently running on my T23, I have the webserver
running nice and secure with no ports open.

You can check it out at: http://lilserenity.dyndns.org:8081

But I shall look at what these registry files do and install if need be.

>>Anyway - out of curiosity; what kind of CPU module is the older Pentium
>>II-M (i.e.: not the Dixon 256KB full speed cache ones, the older 512KB
>>233, 266, 300MHz half speed cache ones), is it MMC-1 or 2?
>>
>
> Ummm...Actually, the 512kb half-speed cache version is also called the
> Dixon, except that particular one is called the PE. In fact, there are 3
> (?) versions of the P2-300 for notebook computers. That's the:

Ahhh I thought the old PII-m's were called Tonga, not Dixon... :-?

> MMC-1 P2-300PE (Half-clocked cache)
> MMC-1 P2-300 (Full speed cache, halved in size)
> MMC-2 P2-300 (Full speed cache, halved in size)
>
> Why did I note this? My trusty crusty Dell latitude CPi 300XT had the 2
> MMC-1s swapped in at one point before I settled on the MMC-1 P2-333.
>
> As for the CPU type in the 560Zs, they use a special, one shot
> Mini-cartridge type that looks like an MMC-2, but isn't.
> Here's a pic of what the unit looks like:
>
> http://www.mars.dti.ne.jp/~ayase/tp/tp560z_1.jpg

Oh bless IBM's cotton socks for using something not quite as prevalent
in availability! ;-)

> OH, and here is a Japanese dude's adventure replacing that 300 with a 366
> Mini-cartridge. Babelfish or educated guesses.
>
> http://home.catv.ne.jp/dd/trimdale/560ZB0J366.htm

Looks pretty simple enough to me. But a lot of hassle, not least that I
usually loose about 50% of the screws when fiddling with computers ;-)

> I think the Mini-carts max out at 400MHz. The speed difference is 15% or
> less. I would not even bother to swap it if you have the 300MHz version.
> The P2-233 version owners might be interested, however.

Nah, I don't think I'd bother at all, I'd go for more memory any day -
it was more of a curiosity that I wanted settling hehe.

> Oh, and for you old-school True blue heavy iron types, this baby brings
> back memories:
>
> http://home.catv.ne.jp/dd/trimdale/IBM860AIX.htm
>
> The good old Power 860 series. Now THAT'S a machine that you rarely see
> mentioned here (If at all).

Nope, the old PowerPC 800 series, shame the PPC processor never really
got the attention it deserved. The 603(e) was a nice processor in its
day along with its 64bit cousin the 604(e). Only gets used in the Mac
these days, was a time when Commodore went belly up, and Escom took over
Commodore-Amiga Inc. that the Amiga would have used PowerPC officially
too (previous CBM wanted to use the HP-PA RISC back in 1993). In the
end I did eventually have a PowerPC based Amiga 1200, running a dual
40MHz 68040 (Motorola) which in itself was a very nice CISC chip (not as
nice as a 68060-66MHz mind you) with a 166MHz 603e.

Then the Amiga gave up the ghost (you used to have to kick the tower
unit I put it in to get it to boot in its dying days!) and I ended up
using a ThinkPad 560, the rest as they say, is history.

More useless outdated info from me as usual :-D

Thanks for the extensive reply!

Vicky

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Received on Wed May 5 10:52:11 2004