Re: [Thinkpad] Just to let you know: Asus vs. IBM (Subnotebook-Class)

I was being droll. Live with it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deanna Berman" <dberman@4dv.net>
To: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt@worldnet.att.net>; "Boris Nienke"
<nospam@nsonic.de>; <Thinkpad@stderr.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Just to let you know: Asus vs. IBM
(Subnotebook-Class)

> I disagree! For several reasons, it is always interesting to me to read
the details of
> someone's decision-making process. I can't try all the other laptops
around, and I don't
> have experience with the hundreds of computers of all sorts of brands that
others (like
> Bruce) have, so I depend on the reports of other people's experiences. I'm
grateful when
> someone takes the time and care to articulate their personal criteria and
then tells us
> how a Thinkpad and another brand measured up to it.
>
> Secondly, even if I'm not particularly interested in the subject of a
particular post, its
> quality gives me a good idea as to whether the posting member is someone
whose opinions
> and observations I might feel comfortable trusting another day.
>
> I don't want my enthusiasm for Thinkpads to be fueled only by blind faith
in the brand, so
> I appreciate hearing what made someone else decide that a Thinkpad was
better than another
> brand/model that might be considered a competitor.
>
> Deanna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Markowitz" <>
> To: "Boris Nienke" <>; <Thinkpad@stderr.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 16:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Just to let you know: Asus vs. IBM
(Subnotebook-Class)
>
>
> > Methinks you came to the wrong place to sing the virtues of an Asus Vs a
> > ThinkPad!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Boris Nienke" <>
> > To: <Thinkpad@stderr.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 5:27 PM
> > Subject: [Thinkpad] Just to let you know: Asus vs. IBM
(Subnotebook-Class)
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > i think this will be interesting for others too, so here we go.
> > >
> > > Currently i'm thinking about buying a subnotebook. I'm thinking about
> > > the X31 or X40 ... or an Asus S/M5200N
> > >
> > > Here's my conclusion why the Asus is not able to beat the IBM:
> > >
> > > 1.) The M5200N is a competitor because you have an optical drive
> > > included but the size and weight would be just like the X31.
> > >
> > > But: The cooler in the M5200N is too small (not enough space) so
> > > that the fan is running all the time! Asus itself confirms that
> > > problem but it is as it is... no space, no cooler, fan is running
> > >
> > > That will kick the M5200N.
> > >
> > > 2.) So, if Asus WITH opt. drive is not a solution (fan is always
> > > running) you can go for a S5200N. It's lighter than the X31 so it
> > > is comparable with the X40 (but the Asus is a bit bigger)
> > >
> > > Now you don't have an opt. drive. OK. What about the rest?
> > >
> > > Biggest problem: the keyboard layout with the Asus!!! Horroble in
> > > my opinion:
> > >
> > > - The number-keys are not full height
> > > - There are no pos1/end/page-up/down keys! You have to use the
> > > cursor-keys with the Fn-Key
> > > - I cannot speak for english/amerikan/... layout but the german
> > > layout normally has the "<>|"-Key on the LEFT side. But not the
> > > Asus! The Asus has that key on the MOST RIGHT side - Right
> > > beneath the Cursor-Keys!
> > > - That means: the Cursor-Keys are not at RIGHT position. There's
> > > an other key at the right side of the right-cursor key!
> > > - The cursor-keys are full hight but extremely small
> > > - The Cursor-keys are at one line with the other keys. That means,
> > > that the Cursor-Up-Key is at the left side of the smaller
> > > Shift-Key... and that means, when you are 10-Finger-Typist you
> > > will often hit Cursor-Up when you like to hit the Shift-Key..
> > > not very nice design...
> > >
> > > Conclusion:
> > > - Bad keyboard-layout with the Asus.
> > > - always running fan with the M-Version of the subnotebook
> > >
> > > So the better solution would be the IBM. Of course, more expensive -
> > > but maybe better support, you have IrDA, Bluetooth included, you have
> > > ThinkLight and shock-resistant HDD etc...
> > >
> > >
> > > Now i'm just where i'm started:
> > >
> > > - should i go for a X31 or X40? ... hard decision ...
> > >
> > > Pro X31:
> > > - CF-Slot
> > > - 2,5" HDD
> > >
> > > Pro X40:
> > > - smaller and lighter (even with high capacity battery)
> > > - 1x Powered USB (for external opt. Drive)
> > >
> > >
> > > CF-slot is good because i have a microdrive and a digicam with CF. But
> > > i can use it with PC-Card-Adaptor too (just like i do now)
> > >
> > > I don't need Firewire so this is no PRO or CON for me
> > >
> > > The powered USB is good because i could use the external IBM opt.
> > > Drive without external power supply which would be really annoying on
> > > the road
> > >
> > > The 2,5" HDD is good because it could be easily upgraded with higher
> > > capacity
> > >
> > >
> > > maybe i should buy both, work with both and then send one back... :-)
> > > but i don't have the money for that ;)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Boris
>

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