Re: [Thinkpad] Possible hijacked Ebay account

I have had two AMEX disputes thru PayPal (I was the disputer, not the
disputed just for the record). Amex immediately credited me on both, and I
prevailed. I always use a CC on PayPal, prefer Amex, they are the best, if
you didn't get the goods, or if it was not waht you paid for, they take care
of you instantly.
International CC's are not covered by US Law, so Kris may have a different
situation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com>
To: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt@worldnet.att.net>
Cc: "alisa" <growlltigereatsabug@yahoo.co.uk>; "Kris Steenhaut"
<kris.steenhaut@hccnet.nl>; <thinkpad@stderr.org>; "Michael Geary"
<Mike@Geary.com>
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Possible hijacked Ebay account

> For example, American Express made a total turnaround on disputes
> through PayPal.
>
> A while back (2001-2002), they looked the other way. Now, they go to
> bat for the cardholder, and take on PayPal.
>
> Big change, big improvement.
>
> - Bob
>
> Bruce Markowitz wrote:
>
> >EXACTLY
> >I hope this guy did not use the same password for his PayPal account.
They
> >could have cleaned out his bank account.
> >And Kris, PayPal is the SAFEST way for a buyer to buy - you can dispute
the
> >credit card, AND you can dispute PayPal, which NOW responds rather well
and
> >quickly to disputes, since they got their rear ends sued off.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "alisa" <growlltigereatsabug@yahoo.co.uk>
> >To: "Kris Steenhaut" <kris.steenhaut@hccnet.nl>; "Bruce Markowitz"
> ><scosgt@worldnet.att.net>
> >Cc: <thinkpad@stderr.org>; "Michael Geary" <Mike@Geary.com>
> >Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 8:53 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Possible hijacked Ebay account
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Kris Steenhaut" <kris.steenhaut@hccnet.nl>
> >>To: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt@worldnet.att.net>
> >>Cc: <thinkpad@stderr.org>; "Michael Geary" <Mike@Geary.com>
> >>Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 5:45 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Possible hijacked Ebay account
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Bruce Markowitz schreef:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The feedback thing is kind of strange.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>You may say so.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Even in the new math 15 - 2 = 13
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>This math has changed quite abit in the last few hours. Very strange it
> >>>is indeed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>But it does reflect some negatives in the percent, so at least a
bidder
> >>>>should now click on it and take a look.
> >>>>Don't be surprised to see a few more similar setups in the next day or
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>two,
> >>
> >>
> >>>>there is more than one hijacked account out there.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>No doubt we can expect better hidden fraudulent actions. All the more
as
> >>>this looks more and more as an Ebay insider "job".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Groeten uit Gent,
> >>>
> >>> Kris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>that seems a little overly conspiratory theorist to me. There are plenty
> >>
> >>
> >of
> >
> >
> >>factors that could explain it. This all obviously happened v. quickly.
> >>
> >>
> >there
> >
> >
> >>was probably someone monitoring this as it was all going on and manually
> >>working with this. that doesn't mean they are the ones behind it, just
> >>monitoring it. I mean this person did get booted rather quickly. the
user
> >>interaction probably helped. I bet they have triggers that are alarmed
> >>
> >>
> >once
> >
> >
> >>items hit certain numbers or something along those lines. I have to
agree.
> >>this looks very much like a case of stolen identity, the reason they'd
> >>hijack instead of create their own is less in the way of footprints.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

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