Re: [Thinkpad] Thinkpad Digest, Vol 29, Issue 42

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> 1. wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay (clive)
> 2. Re: wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay (Mitchell Yee)
> 3. Re: wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay (Chris Schumann)
> 4. Re: wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay (Ray Bayles)
> 5. Re: wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay (Jon Etkins)
> 6. Re: wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay (higgins)
> 7. Re: wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay (Bruce Markowitz)
> 8. Re: wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay (Nathan Smith)
> 9. Re: wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay (Chris Schumann)
> 10. Re: wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay (higgins)
> 11. Re: wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay (Ray Bayles)
> 12. Re: wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay (Jon Etkins)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:53:04 +0000
>From: clive <clive.thinkpad@gmail.com>
>Subject: [Thinkpad] wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay
>To: thinkpad@stderr.org
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>I'd be grateful for advice on whether it is possible to completely erase all
>info on a disk purchased on ebay, before using it, and the name of a
>reliable (cheap as possible) wiper program to do so.
>Clive
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:59:29 -0800 (PST)
>From: Mitchell Yee <mitchell_yee@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay
>To: clive <clive.thinkpad@gmail.com>, Thinkpad@stderr.org
>Message-ID: <20060223165929.62239.qmail@web52913.mail.yahoo.com>
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>I use this:
>http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/
>
>Use the DoD setting. Set it up before you go to bed
>and it'll be done by the morning.
>
>Mitchell
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>--- clive <clive.thinkpad@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>I'd be grateful for advice on whether it is possible
>>to completely erase all
>>info on a disk purchased on ebay, before using it,
>>and the name of a
>>reliable (cheap as possible) wiper program to do so.
>>Clive
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:00:25 -0600
>From: Chris Schumann <chris@idlelion.net>
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay
>To: clive <clive.thinkpad@gmail.com>
>Cc: thinkpad@stderr.org
>Message-ID: <43FDEA29.5020506@idlelion.net>
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>Simply running fdisk and deleting all partitions, and replacing the mbr
>with "fdisk /mbr" will make the drive safe and erase all the data.
>
>Other software will make it more difficult or impossible to recover the
>data, but if you just want to use the drive, knowing that it is safe,
>free from viruses and old data, fdisk will do the job just fine.
>
>Chris
>
>clive wrote:
>
>
>>I'd be grateful for advice on whether it is possible to completely erase all
>>info on a disk purchased on ebay, before using it, and the name of a
>>reliable (cheap as possible) wiper program to do so.
>>Clive
>>
>>
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:07:25 -0700
>From: "Ray Bayles" <canyonlands@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay
>To: "Chris Schumann" <chris@idlelion.net>, Thinkpad@stderr.org
>Message-ID:
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>I agree with the above. If you have a computer with a floppy drive, running
>a windows 98 Boot/System disk with FDisk /MBR <enter>, then FDisk to remove
>the existing partitions, then FDisk again to replace the partition(s), then
>reboot and format will be fine for your own use. There are people who can
>recover data from a disc prepared this way, but not easily and not free.
>
>You can also find several programs at www.majorgeeks.com, www.tucows.com,
>www.cnet.com, www.pcworld.com and others which will do an adequate job with
>a 30 day free trial period.
>
>
>
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>On 2/23/06, Chris Schumann <chris@idlelion.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Simply running fdisk and deleting all partitions, and replacing the mbr
>>with "fdisk /mbr" will make the drive safe and erase all the data.
>>
>>Other software will make it more difficult or impossible to recover the
>>data, but if you just want to use the drive, knowing that it is safe,
>>free from viruses and old data, fdisk will do the job just fine.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>clive wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'd be grateful for advice on whether it is possible to completely erase
>>>
>>>
>>all
>>
>>
>>>info on a disk purchased on ebay, before using it, and the name of a
>>>reliable (cheap as possible) wiper program to do so.
>>>Clive
>>>
>>>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:49:29 -0600
>From: Jon Etkins <jon@snikte.net>
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay
>To: clive <clive.thinkpad@gmail.com>
>Cc: thinkpad@stderr.org
>Message-ID: <43FE03B9.80701@snikte.net>
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>Darik's Boot-and-Nuke, http://dban.sourceforge.net - simple, effective, and free.
>
>clive wrote:
>
>
>>I'd be grateful for advice on whether it is possible to completely erase all
>>info on a disk purchased on ebay, before using it, and the name of a
>>reliable (cheap as possible) wiper program to do so.
>>Clive
>>
>>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:51:45 -0500
>From: higgins <jmhiggins@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay
>Cc: thinkpad@stderr.org
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>Why on earth would anyone take the risk of buying a used hard drive???
>
>On 2/23/06, Jon Etkins <jon@snikte.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Darik's Boot-and-Nuke, http://dban.sourceforge.net - simple, effective,
>>and free.
>>
>>clive wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'd be grateful for advice on whether it is possible to completely erase
>>>
>>>
>>all
>>
>>
>>>info on a disk purchased on ebay, before using it, and the name of a
>>>reliable (cheap as possible) wiper program to do so.
>>>Clive
>>>
>>>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:00:03 -0500
>From: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt@worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay
>To: "higgins" <jmhiggins@gmail.com>
>Cc: thinkpad@stderr.org
>Message-ID: <002301c638ab$62b3a020$841cbe0a@X20>
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>Now you sound like me.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "higgins" <jmhiggins@gmail.com>
>Cc: <thinkpad@stderr.org>
>Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:51 PM
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay
>
>
>
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>>Why on earth would anyone take the risk of buying a used hard drive???
>>
>>On 2/23/06, Jon Etkins <jon@snikte.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Darik's Boot-and-Nuke, http://dban.sourceforge.net - simple, effective,
>>>and free.
>>>
>>>clive wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'd be grateful for advice on whether it is possible to completely
>>>>
>>>>
>erase
>
>
>>>all
>>>
>>>
>>>>info on a disk purchased on ebay, before using it, and the name of a
>>>>reliable (cheap as possible) wiper program to do so.
>>>>Clive
>>>>
>>>>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:04:16 -0500
>From: Nathan Smith <nrs27@cornell.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay
>To: clive <clive.thinkpad@gmail.com>
>Cc: thinkpad@stderr.org
>Message-ID: <43FE0730.3090602@cornell.edu>
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>Lookup the linux command shred.
>
>clive wrote:
>
>
>
>>I'd be grateful for advice on whether it is possible to completely erase all
>>info on a disk purchased on ebay, before using it, and the name of a
>>reliable (cheap as possible) wiper program to do so.
>>Clive
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>Message: 9
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:14:37 -0600
>From: Chris Schumann <chris@idlelion.net>
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay
>To: "'ThinkPad Mailing List'" <thinkpad@stderr.org>
>Message-ID: <43FE099D.7030900@idlelion.net>
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>DBAN is a bazooka when a knife will do the job. So are all the other
>titles suggested.
>
>He's not selling a drive with personal information. He wants to use a
>drive and be sure it doesn't have anything on it. Fdisk will do exactly
>what is needed and no more.
>
>And I hope the risk you mean to imply is that the drive might be
>unreliable, and not that it's infected.
>
>Chris Schumann
>
>
>
>
>>Why on earth would anyone take the risk of buying a used hard drive???
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>>Darik's Boot-and-Nuke, http://dban.sourceforge.net - simple, effective,
>>>and free.
>>>
>>>
>
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:27:05 -0500
>From: higgins <jmhiggins@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay
>Cc: "ThinkPad Mailing List" <thinkpad@stderr.org>
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>Correct. I'm just talking about the reliability of what is the most
>important component of any computer. As y'all have noted, viruses are easy
>to take care of. Why is someone selling that drive on Ebay??
>
>
>
>
>On 2/23/06, Chris Schumann <chris@idlelion.net> wrote:
>
>
>>DBAN is a bazooka when a knife will do the job. So are all the other
>>And I hope the risk you mean to imply is that the drive might be
>>unreliable, and not that it's infected.
>>
>>Chris Schumann
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>Message: 11
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:44:19 -0700
>From: "Ray Bayles" <canyonlands@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay
>To: higgins <jmhiggins@gmail.com>
>Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List <thinkpad@stderr.org>
>Message-ID:
> <69363c910602231144s74735094gb72fdb1486bed301@mail.gmail.com>
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>Actually with the high failure rate of drives over 40 GB, I think a tested
>used drive may have its merits. The statistics we get through our own
>experience and from service providers for our repair shop on drives that are
>60, 80, and 100 GB hard drives have an extremely high failure rate.
>Particularly some of the main standards such as Western Digital.
>
>
>
>
>On 2/23/06, higgins <jmhiggins@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Correct. I'm just talking about the reliability of what is the most
>>important component of any computer. As y'all have noted, viruses are easy
>>to take care of. Why is someone selling that drive on Ebay??
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 2/23/06, Chris Schumann <chris@idlelion.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>DBAN is a bazooka when a knife will do the job. So are all the other
>>>And I hope the risk you mean to imply is that the drive might be
>>>unreliable, and not that it's infected.
>>>
>>>Chris Schumann
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>Message: 12
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:58:48 -0600
>From: Jon Etkins <jon@snikte.net>
>Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] wiping a hard drive purchased on ebay
>To: 'ThinkPad Mailing List' <thinkpad@stderr.org>
>Message-ID: <43FE3018.4000201@snikte.net>
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>FDISK will prep the drive for use, but DBAN will hit every sector on the drive and report any error, thus not only preparing the drive for use but also verifying that it is actually usable.
>
>
>Chris Schumann wrote:
>
>
>>DBAN is a bazooka when a knife will do the job. So are all the other
>>titles suggested.
>>
>>He's not selling a drive with personal information. He wants to use a
>>drive and be sure it doesn't have anything on it. Fdisk will do exactly
>>what is needed and no more.
>>
>>And I hope the risk you mean to imply is that the drive might be
>>unreliable, and not that it's infected.
>>
>>Chris Schumann
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Why on earth would anyone take the risk of buying a used hard drive???
>>>
>>>
>>>>Darik's Boot-and-Nuke, http://dban.sourceforge.net - simple, effective,
>>>>and free.
>>>>
>>>>
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DBAN is excellant. BTW - which hard drive did you buy?
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