Re: [Thinkpad] VISTA S*CKS!

OK< so I'm a moron. Bye
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy L Santossio" <starfirect@hotmail.com>
To: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt@worldnet.att.net>; "Stuart Friedman"
<shrinkwrap86@hotmail.com>; <thinkpad@stderr.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] VISTA S*CKS!

> Uh, have you used it? I'm not being glib about it - it's an honest
question.
>
> The new UI beats the hell out of Office XP. Faster, on all of the
machines I've used it on. Whole new views for your data. The saved files
in 2007 are XML based - so more transferable - and much smaller which is a
nice to have. All of the themed controls of Word and PowerPoint allow for
really slick graphics work with one or two clicks, things that weren't
available to Office 2003, much less Office XP. Not to mention all of the
collaborative options and sharing stuff, when you store things in the cloud.
>
> Maybe you mean to say "there's no advantage that Office 2007 has that
means anything to me and I'm still happy with Office XP" but to say there's
no advantage between the two is... well, moronic. There are a ton of new
and innovative features between Office XP and 2007. I mean, you're entitled
to your opinion - you'll just be wrong.And what's with the M$ - I thought
that was only used by /. readers?
>
>
>
> > From: scosgt@worldnet.att.net> To: starfirect@hotmail.com;
shrinkwrap86@hotmail.com; thinkpad@stderr.org> Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] VISTA
S*CKS!> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:45:21 -0500> > No NO, there is no
advantage to Office 2007 over Office 2K, just more money> for M$.> -----
Original Message ----- > From: "Randy L Santossio" <starfirect@hotmail.com>>
To: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt@worldnet.att.net>; "Stuart Friedman">
<shrinkwrap86@hotmail.com>; <thinkpad@stderr.org>> Sent: Sunday, November
25, 2007 8:37 PM> Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] VISTA S*CKS!> > > > A few things:>
>> > I'm not telling you to upgrade to Vista - I'm just pointing out that
a)> there are solutions to your problems if you want to upgrade, b) your>
expectations that all-things-will-work-on-a-new-OS is simply unrealistic,>
and c) your experience wasn't mine (since I'm running Vista on four>
machines - one of which is a T60p - with no trouble). I've seen apps break>
across something as small as 10.4.5 to 10.4.6 i
> n OSX - you went from 5.0.2> to 6.0 which is often a quantum leap between
OS versoins.> >> > And yes, SP1 and SP2 didn't come out in 2001, but the
core of the OS was> released in 2001. I don't care if SP9 of Windows 2000
comes out tomorrow -> it's still an 8 year old OS.> >> > Further, you can
use DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1, and Word for Windows 2.0 on> your T60 - Microsoft
isn't stopping you. The question I would have is how> productive or
effective will you be if you use it compare to XP and Office> 2000 or Vista
and Office 2007? And if you're more productive with an abacus> and slide
rule, good for you, but it doesn't mean that it's what the> majority of the
world will want :)> >> >> >> > > From: scosgt@worldnet.att.net> To:
starfirect@hotmail.com;> shrinkwrap86@hotmail.com; thinkpad@stderr.org>
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] VISTA> S*CKS!> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007
20:29:10 -0500> > Sure, but what does it DO> for me? (that XP does not)?>
And just for the record, XP Service Packs 1 and>
> 2 are MUCH newer than 2001> And there is supposedly a SP3 in the works.>>
Besides, if I pay M$ outrageous price for software (such as Office 2K) why>>
shouldn't I be able to use it until the next millenium if I want to?> -----
> Original Message ----- > From: "Randy L Santossio"
<starfirect@hotmail.com>>> To: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt@worldnet.att.net>;
"Stuart Friedman">> <shrinkwrap86@hotmail.com>; <thinkpad@stderr.org>> Sent:
Sunday, November> 25, 2007 8:25 PM> Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] VISTA S*CKS!> >
> > I think it> comes down to expectations.> >> > You upgraded the OS from
something> originally built in 2001 to something> newly released in 2006 and
you> expected all of the applications to continue> > > to work without any
updates from their respective manufacturers? And> how> exactly is it
Microsoft's fault that other ISV's either want to charge> for> upgrades or
don't bother to fix their software?> >> > I'd call that> wholly unrealistic.
And I wouldn't attempt to run No
> rton> Navigator [for> Windows 95] on your new box.FWIW, I've installed
Vista over> XP and Office> 2003 continued to work - not sure what went on
there, but it's> worked for> me. I recall seeing a fix for the USB thing
either on Lenovo's> site or via> a Vista patch. And for stuff that seems
unhappy in Vista, try> running it in> XP's compatibility mode (an option on
Properties on Shortcuts)> or running> it as Administrator. I can't tell you
how many software apps> I've seen that> attempt to write something to C:\ or
C:\Program Files -> that's just bad> coding by a Windows programmer.> > JM2C
of course. But along the same lines,> I have to laugh at this.> People
bitched and moaned that XP was old and they> wanted somethi> > ng new and>
shiny - then Vista comes around and people bitch and moan> that it's simply>
different. Ah well. Such is life.> >> >> >> > > From:>
scosgt@worldnet.att.net> To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net;>>
shrinkwrap86@hotmail.com; thinkpad@stderr.org> Date: Sun,
> 25 Nov 2007>> 20:01:11 -0500> Subject: [Thinkpad] VISTA S*CKS!> > Well,
just to try it, I>> installed Vista Ultimate over an existing new> install
or IBM XP on a high>> end T60 (Duo 2 Ghz, 2GIG RAM, Hypermemory video>
card). The install went>> fine. I had to spend quite a bit of time updating>
drivers (video, power,>> USB, audio (which always errors out) and a few>
others. All was up and>> running BUT> And here is the BIG BUT> Most of the
pre-Vista stuff DOES NOT>> WORK!> I could not open an Office Word .doc -
apparently it wants me to>> purchase> the new version of MS Office (DUH)>
AutoGK (makes .avi files)>> would not work, errors out> USB drives have to
be inserted twice, the first>> time it gives a driver> install error>
PowerDVD> > gives a compatibility error>> Now this machine did not have much
on it,> but what there was did not work!>> F*CK MicroSoft. I am not about to
buy> all> > new software so they can make> money.> XP is fine. I'm sticking
with>> it.> That's my ra
> nt and I'm sticking with it.> And not to mention, it> killed> my recovery
partition, so I had to re-install> from the CD's> I am> not a> conspiracy
nut, but is there anyone who thinks this is not>> deliberate?> >>
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